JANUARY 19, 2005
7:00 PM
HELD AT BRIER COMMUNITY CHURCH FELLOWSHIP HALL
22730 BRIER ROAD
Commissioner Marley called the Brier Planning Commission meeting
to order at 7:05 PM.
ROLL CALL:
Present: Commissioners Dave Marley, Robert Nelson, Gene
Funk, Allyn Chrisman, and Scott Warner.
Absent: Michael Lavoie and Sue Wahlgren.
APPROVAL
OF MINUTES:
Commissioner
Marley moved and Commissioner Chrisman seconded
to approve the minutes of December 1, 2004 as corrected, to include that
Commissioner Lavoie abstained from the motion on SP03-002. Motion Carried as
corrected. Commissioner's Warner and Nelson abstained.
PUBLIC REQUESTS & ORAL
COMMUNICATIONS:
Ed Walker - 21206 Poplar Way – explained to
the Planning Commission BMC 2.36.030 - regarding the continuation of a Planning
Commission meeting. Mr. Walker addressed submitting items to the Planning
Commission and how it has been handled in the past. He also stated that the
Planning Commission could state that they would review the item handed out but
at the next meeting, etc. Mr. Walker went on to explain the plat maps he handed
out at a Planning Commission meeting.
Mr. Walker reported the tapes of the October
and December 2004 Planning Commission meetings were missing the very beginning
of the meeting. The first part of the meetings are left off of the tape. He
advised the Planning Commission that when they approve the minutes to be sure
that they are accurate.
Peggy Dare - 22320 Hickory Way commented
that she agrees with Mr. Walkers comments. Ms. Dare commented that there is a
regional detention pond in her neighborhood and that it has never been built
right nor has it ever performed right.
Jorge Garcia responded and stated that they
have contacted the developer and that the pond is being studied now to
determine what the deficiencies are and why it does not function correctly.
Ed Walker - 21206 Poplar Way - asked if the
pond was brought up to 2001 DOE standards would there be enough capacity to it?
There was discussion.
COMMITTEE REPORTS:
Sasha Doolittle reported that the new City
Hall is running a little behind schedule due to change orders. She gave some
suggestions to the concerns and problems that were mentioned by Mr. Walker.
Mayor Starks welcomed the new Commissioners
Mr. Nelson and Mr. Warner. He reported that the City is in the process of
updating the Comprehensive Plan and there will be meetings scheduled in the
future which the Planning Commission will be asked to participate in.
NEW
BUSINESS - PUBLIC HEARING: PROPOSED STORMWATER ORDINANCE AMENDMENT, WHICH
INCLUDES THE DEVELOPMENT GUIDELINES FOR SITES ADDING/REPLACING LESS THAN 5,000
SQUARE FEET OF IMPERVIOUS SURFACE.
Chairman
Protem Marley opened the Public Hearing meeting for public comment at 7:43 PM.
Peggy
Dare 22320 Hickory Way – asked for an introduction explaining the proposed
Ordinance what it is about, who proposed it and why and who is responsible for
it being before the Planning Commission for a hearing tonight.
Mayor
Starks explained that this was an issue brought before the City Council and
during that discussion the Council requested that the City Engineer look at the
issue. He explained that this has been before the City with regards to single
lot development.
Jorge
Garcia explained that some of the issues that need to be addressed as a whole
is to clarify the code and keep it consistent with the current regulations.
Ed
Walker 21206 Poplar Way - stated that BMC 16.20.020 needs to be changed if BMC
16.16.150 is changed. Mr. Walker commented on the draft proposal which were the
following:
#42.
Biofiltration shall be required for plats of five or more lots that are not
served by a wet pond. The size of the biofiltration should be proportional to
the size of the subdivision. Mr. Walker stated that that makes sense and he
does not know why that is in there. He stated based on the recommendation of
the City Engineer it should not be based on the 2001 manual. He suggested that
the whole thing should be taken out.
#5
All drainage plans and calculations including Low Impact Development
alternatives shall be reviewed and approved or disapproved by the City
Engineer. Mr. Walker suggested that the City Engineer should be recommend
approval or disapproval to the City Council but the City Engineer should not
give approval or disapproval.
Mr.
Walker asked the Planning Commission to continue this Public Hearing to the
February meeting.
Commissioner
Warner commented on the suggestion by Mr. Walker regarding the "approval
or disapproval by the City Engineer" should be changed to "the City
Engineer should recommend approval or disapproval to the City Council".
Commissioner Warner stated that Council and Planning Commission are not experts
in those areas and that the City Engineer is the one who needs to make the
decision of whether the plans and calculations are correct.
There
was discussion.
Peggy
Dare 22320 Hickory Way – Ms. Dare started with her comments of her thoughts on
the Drainage Code and gave a handout of her version of the Drainage Code. Ms.
Dare handed to the Planning Commission her notes on the current Brier
Comprehensive Plan beginning with the Land Use Element, she reviewed her notes
and gave comments. Ms. Dare handed out notes from the DOE Manual regarding Low
Impact Development 1.61 "The Puget Sound Water Quality Management
Plan", "Chapter 2 - Minimum Requirements for New Development and
Redevelopment", "1.7.5 The Role of Land Use and Lifestyles",
"2.5.5 Minimum Requirement #5: On-site Stormwater Management",
"3.2 Detention Facilities", "Figure 4.1 Treatment Facility
Selection Flow Chart", "Chapter 5 - On-Site Stormwater Management",
"5.3.2 Site Design BMPs", "Figures 4.4, 4.5 and 4.10".
Ed
Walker 21206 Poplar Way - stated that title 17 needs to be changed as well, in
order to keep consistency.
Peggy
Dare - 22320 Hickory Way continued with her suggestions to the Draft Ordinance.
There
were no other Public comments.
Chairman
Protem Marley closed the Public Hearing at 8:56 PM.
MISCELLANEOUS:
ELECT A PLANNING
COMMISSION CHAIR AND CHAIR PROTEM.
Chairman
Protem Marley opened for consideration the electing of a Chairman and Chairman
Protem to the Planning Commission for the year 2005.
Commissioner
Marley nominated and Commissioner Funk seconded that nomination of Michael
Lavoie for Chairman. There were no other nominations for Chairman. Commissioner Nelson moved to
close the nomination process for Chairman, motion was seconded. Motion Carried.
Michael Lavoie was nominated Chairman of the Planning Commission for 2005.
Chairman
Protem Marley opened for consideration the electing of a Chairman Protem to the
Planning Commission for the year 2005.
Commissioner
Funk nominated Dave Marley. Commissioner Marley nominated Scott Warner.
Commissioner Warner declined the nomination. Commissioner Warner nominated Sue
Wahlgren. There being no other nominations Commissioner
Funk moved and Commissioner
Chrisman seconded to close the nomination process for Chairman Protem.
Motion Carried. Roll Call was taken for electing Chairman Protem.
Commissioner
Nelson - abstained, Commissioner Chrisman - Wahlgren, Commissioner Marley -
Wahlgren, Commissioner Warner - Wahlgren, Commissioner Funk - Wahlgren.
Commissioner Sue Wahlgren was elected as Chair Protem. Motion Carried.
Commissioner
Warner asked when the Planning Commission would consider this Draft Ordinance
they had the Public Hearing on. He suggested that the Commission have a chance
to review the handouts. The Mayor stated that it is at the Planning Commissions
discretion. Jorge Garcia told the Planning Commissioners if they have any
questions that they are welcome to call him.
Commissioner
Warner gave his suggestions for changes or additions he spoke about
Semi-permeable asphalt, where he suggested that permeable concrete also be
added, being consistent when referring to the DOE stormwater Manual, Item 5 on
the third page "when the total combined impervious surface of the existing
proposed improvements ......" the wording is confusing and needs to be
changed to "when the total combined impervious surface of existing and
proposed improvements is less than 5,000 square feet then the applicant.....".
Commissioner Warner spoke of other concerns and gave his suggestions, with a
handout, for the Draft Ordinance.
ADJOURNMENT:
Commissioner
Nelson moved and Commissioner Funk seconded to adjourn. Meeting adjourned at
9:30 PM.
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